French Artillery Train in War of Spanish Succession
Had an email from Martin
'I thought you might enjoy these zinnfiguren painted by Vladimir Douchkine. The flats were engraved by Kieler Zinnfiguren in the late 1920s from drawings by L.C. Bombled. They were painted in Paris by Douchkine circa 1950.'
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An informative resource for adding transport and logistics elements to such armies.
ReplyDeleteI'd say these pictures are not related to the War of Spanish Successsion at all but to the War of Austrian Succession and/or the Seven Years War. The uniforms clearly are Louis XV era - see also the the inscription on the last picture (BTW, where is that last plate from? Is it an original or a copy of an original?). As for gun carriages, they would have been painted light blue or light grey - as were ammunition carts - by the time of the AWS as can be seen here (bottom left):
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or here:
http://pfef.free.fr/Anc_Reg/Images/Batailles/18/vB_17470702_Lawfeldt-03.jpg
... while baggage train vehicles were painted reddish brown:
http://pfef.free.fr/Anc_Reg/Images/Batailles/18/vB_17460924_Chateaux%20Namur-02.jpg
WAS not AWS, of course ;-)
ReplyDeleteA contemporary picture to confirm the use of light grey (or light blue, definitely not red) gun carriages during the SYW appears to be Pierre Lenfant's painting of the siege of Calais in 1756.
You've posted a link here:
http://flintlockandtomahawk.blogspot.com/2017/04/view-of-camp-of-calais-in-1756.html
As I said somewhere else.
ReplyDeleteThe French gun carriages were definitely red not blue.
I think that almost every really contemporary painting show this (not Blarenberghe who painted during the 1780s).
https://www.fortticonderoga.org/blog/rare-french-painting-joins-fort-ticonderoga-museum-collections/
http://nba-sywtemplates.blogspot.com/2014/04/rossbach-french-flags-project-corps.html
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ReplyDeleteApparently, you know nothing about Louis-Nicolas Van Blarenberghe.
And I can't see that you can deliver any contemporary paintings which show that army gun carriages were "definitely red" (navy gun carriages were painted red, true, but that's a different matter).
Yes, Louis-Nicolas Van Blarenberge painted most paintings of the WAS series around 1780, some (e.g. Lawfeld) a little earlier (c.1770).
But, actually, he was eye witness to the events. He had followed the French army into the field. There, he met the father of later French Marshal Louis-Alexandre Berthier, Jean-Baptiste Berthier, who was an army ingénieur-géographe and instructor at the École de Mars, and they became friends.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Nicolas_Van_Blarenberghe
So, Van Blarenberghe's paintings have to be considered first hand testimony. He knew exactly what he was depicting. Moreover, the WAS series was officially commissioned by the king. Many other participants in the WAS were still alive. I don't hope you really assume that - under such circumstances - Van Blarenberghe would not have cared and dared to deliver inaccurate renderings of men and material...
More examples of WAS "carters" from the digital archive of the NYPL. Note that the carriages are painted blue.
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https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47df-b021-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99